From co-creators
Ryan Murphy and
Brad Falchuk, the FX series
American Horror Story
uses a unique and compelling approach to television, with a different
setting, different characters and a rotating cast of actors for each
season. For Season 3,
American Horror Story: Coven tells the secret history of witches and witchcraft in America, with a cast of talented actresses that includes
Jessica Lange,
Kathy Bates,
Angela Bassett,
Patti LuPone,
Sarah Paulson,
Frances Conroy,
Lily Rabe,
Taissa Farmiga,
Emma Roberts,
Gabourey Sidibe and now even
Stevie Nicks.
During this exclusive phone interview with Collider, highly acclaimed
actress Kathy Bates (who plays Madame Delphine LaLaurie, a high society
Creole socialite from the 1830s that had a taste for the gruesome
torture of her slaves) talked about how she came to be a part of
American Horror Story,
how happy she is with the results, developing this version of the
real-life woman, how the costumes helped her find her performance, why
she was such a cruel person, how much fun it’s been to work with such
talented women, and that she’d love to return for another season. Check
out what she had to say after the jump.
How did you get involved with this season of
American Horror Story? Did you seek this out because of the work you saw Jessica Lange doing?
KATHY BATES: Yeah. I really enjoyed her work on Season 1, and I
enjoyed the writing. I just thought, “I’d really like to be involved
with this show, in some way.” I just didn’t know how. And then, we
just got together for a drink and I mentioned it to her. And then, she
mentioned it to Ryan [Murphy] and he had a great idea. Then, I met with
him and he pitched it to me last January. I was so excited about the
character and about what he was doing with the show that I said yes,
immediately.
After the experience that you had with
Harry’s Law, were you
hesitant at all about doing TV again, or was this experience just
clearly so different from that one that there was no issue?
BATES: I think the latter. There wasn’t any issue. The bottom
line is that I’m an actor, so when somebody pitches me a great part,
it’s a no-brainer. You never know what it’s gonna be like, in terms of
the actual experience. You can be really excited about a part that can
turn out shitty, you can have a bad time, there’s a bad egg or two or
three, in the bunch, or the producers are weird, or something like
that. But happily, this has turned out to be a really good experience.
It’s a relief, after having gone through what I did with the network.
Ryan is an exciting person to work for. He’s a genius. And Alfonso
Gomez-Rejon, who does a lot of our directing, is an abso-fucking-lutely
brilliant guy. He’s studied with some of the greats, and worked with
some of the greats, on his way up. He’s a very serious artist. His
work on Episodes 301 and 303 just verifies that. So, it’s been loads of
fun, but hard work. Each episode is really, really ambitious, but it’s
been great. I’m so happy with the results, and I’m so happy that
everyone has responded the way they have. On Wednesday nights, I tune
in to the Twitter feeds to see what everybody is saying. It’s fun to do
that.
This
season alone, there’s been gang rape, mass murder, incest and
bestiality. Did you know exactly what you would be getting yourself
into?
BATES: No! After having seen the first two seasons, I knew they
were really pushing the limits. I’m just hoping they don’t ask me to do
something really horrific. Although, I must say, we did shoot
something pretty horrific. It’s been interesting, to say the least. I
also think the show has a lot to say about women’s roles and women in
society. It throws that patriarchal view of women in your face. That
idea of woman as witch, and woman as mysterious and powerful, is one of
the underlying messages of the show. That’s what I like about what Ryan
does. There’s a reason why it’s called “American” Horror Story. I like that, a lot.
When you’re playing a character that’s rooted in history, how much
research did you decide to do into who she really was, and how much did
you want to stay away from that and just develop her as a character that
you’re playing?
BATES: Well, I did a lot of research, and then learned quickly
that they were doing their own spin on this character. For example, I
had a big discussion with Ryan because she was French, so she would have
been educated in Paris and her family came from there. Her patriarch,
way back when, came from Ireland, but then he served in the Army for
Louis XIV. And then, he had children who were all French. Her
grandfathers came, who were in the French Navy. She would have been
considered Creole. Any first-born children of settlers like that would
be called Creole. We think of the Creole as a whole different ethnic
group, but classically, they would have been Creole. She would have
spoken Parisian French. So, I really fought with Ryan. I wanted her to
be authentically French, but he just said, “No! No French!” So, I
said, “Okay, I’ll do a Delta accent with a little bit of New Orleans
thrown in,” and he was happy with that. And it was probably right.
There’s so much going on, it would have been crazy to have all these
different accents flying everywhere.
How much have these incredible costumes affected your performance and changed your physicality?
BATES: A lot. When you first saw her in the maid outfit, I
wanted her to be gripping the handlebar of that tray when she comes out
‘cause she’s really pissed off, but I don’t know if that read, at all.
She was trying to make the best of it, but she was still a racist, in
her heart. She didn’t want to serve a black woman because she
considered that anathema. I wanted to do even more with that, but it’s
not the Madame LaLaurie show. You can’t get everything in there, so you
do what you can.
This is a woman who can be particularly vile and nasty, especially in
the way she speaks to people that she sees as beneath her. As an
actor, do you find that type of stuff fun and just part of the
character, or is it difficult to do that and be so convincing at it?
BATES: Listen, I think we’ve all got that stuff inside of us.
There are certain people, even within our own families, that we look
down on and feel better than and superior to, so it’s not hard to
imagine that. We have strong likes and dislikes about everything, so
it’s easy to plug those things in. The main thing that daunted me, at
the beginning, was, “What makes this woman so evil?” I tried all kinds
of ways to understand. I know part of it is that her husband was a
philanderer. In those days, he could have gone and married the woman of
color, and then had recognized children by her, who would have then
been part of the estate and would have inherited everything. She also
had a relative that was shot by a couple of slaves and killed. Also,
with the turn of the century, from the 1790s into 1807, there was a
slave uprising in Haiti, which wasn’t very far. That was the uprising
that created the country of Haiti. So, the white citizens of New
Orleans numbered about a thousand, and there were three thousand
slaves. They were outnumbered, and they slept with guns and knives
under their pillow because they were very afraid. So, they probably
came down pretty hard on their own slaves, in order to instill fear in
them. That was part of it with her, to my understanding. And then, I
also talked to some detectives, from all over Europe, at a film festival
that I got to go to in the spring. I said, “So, what is it? Why does
somebody do these horrible things?” And they said, “Some people are
just that way.” At some point, I think she probably got off on the
power. For our show, we’re doing crazy shit anyway, so you don’t have
to make sense of it.
What was it like to have Gabourey Sidibe to play so many of your scenes off of, this season?
BATES: She was one of the actors that I was really hoping I got a
chance to work with. I think she’s beautiful, and I just love her
presence. She’s so natural. She’s so real. There isn’t a dishonest
bone in her body. She’s always just real. And she’s so much fun to
play with. Happily, I got to do a lot of fun things with her.
How much fun is it to share screen time with actresses like Jessica Lange and Angela Bassett?
BATES: For me, it means you’ve gotta bring it, especially with
those two. They’re both theater-trained. You’ve just gotta bring
you’re A-game. Everybody wants to step up to the plate and hit a home
run.
Now that you’ve gotten to experience
American Horror Story,
would you be willing to return for future seasons, if Ryan Murphy came
up with another equally as delicious story and character?
BATES: Absolutely! I would look forward to it. I’m enjoying it
tremendously. I have faith that Ryan will come up with something
equally as wonderful for next season. I know that he’s said this is his
favorite season yet, for this show. I would love to come back. We’ll
see what happens.
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microphone. This is, of course, untrue. Those of us not inside
Lawrence’s head know that her general musings are usually the best part
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